9/14/2019 Install Steam On Wine
Aug 22, 2018 - Proton is a modified distribution of Wine that enables you to run Windows. On your previous Windows-only games, click it to start installing.
While SteamOS looks like an amazing idea, there will always be the problem of some companies not releasing their games for Linux. During my time with Steam for Linux I noticed that many of my favourite games aren't supported. Luckily for us though, there's a Windows Compatibility Layer called Wine that could be used to run most of those incompatible games on Linux, and hence SteamOS. It's not perfect, but it works well for most games. Here's the first question; Should Valve use Wine to 'emulate' incompatible games?
Every incompatible game could be installed with a small and specific Wine install tailored to the game. Even better, Steam could seamlessly install this small Wine package with the game, removing all the hassle. As for the second question, should Valve work with the Wine developers to increase it's compatibility? Lots of games.coughSaint'sRow3cough. don't work on Wine at all, and nobody is going to switch to SteamOS and leave half of their library behind. If Valve worked with Wine to allow it to 'emulate' more games, SteamOS will end up with a much bigger library, and both the SteamOS and the Steam Machines will benefit Of course, this is only for the games which won't be ported to Linux by the developers, native linux ports will always be preferred for the increased performance and ability to use the OS to it's full capacity (assuming it's not a lazy and unoptimized port) tl;dr version. Should Steam use Wine to emulate incompatible games?
Originally posted by:Valve already promised streaming for that kind of stuff. It's also highly likely that they'll lobby publishers to release games for Linux. So don't bother with Wine. Some people though don't have a Windows PC or may want to get rid of Windows in favor of SteamOS. Wine is an option in that case. I personally recommend Crossover over Wine. With Wine, it's like 'Here's the tool, now if you want, go look how to use it'.
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With Crossover, it's like 'We get everything done for you, all you have to do is to play the game'. Anyway, most people I know who want to get rid of Windows are idealistic jerks. So it's kinda hard for me to find a valid reason for 'I want to get rid of Windows'. Ok, the XP support runs out, but Windows 8 was 30 bucks a while ago, and 7 is dropping in price fast.
Originally posted by:Not all Linux users are idealistic jerks.Of course. Sadly, those are the ones who are vocal. I remember Linus himself not using the term 'free software' because of idealistic implications. Which I of course like, Linus is more pragmatic than idealistic, as it seems. Linus is a funny one 'There are 'extremists' in the free software world, but that's one major reason why I don't call what I do 'free software' any more.
I don't want to be associated with the people for whom it's about exclusion and hatred. ' 'Anybody who tells me I can't use a program because it's not open source, go suck on rms. I'm not interested.
99% of that I run tends to be open source, but that's my choice, dammit.' 'Me, I just don't care about proprietary software.
It's not 'evil' or 'immoral,' it just doesn't matter. I think that Open Source can do better, and I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is by working on Open Source, but it's not a crusade – it's just a superior way of working together and generating code. It's superior because it's a lot more fun and because it makes cooperation much easier (no silly NDA's or artificial barriers to innovation like in a proprietary setting), and I think Open Source is the right thing to do the same way I believe science is better than alchemy.
Like science, Open Source allows people to build on a solid base of previous knowledge, without some silly hiding. But I don't think you need to think that alchemy is 'evil.' It's just pointless because you can obviously never do as well in a closed environment as you can with open scientific methods.' In my experience with Linux and WINE for old Windows gaming and music production.I've always found old software (Interstate '76 and Mixman Studio for example) that wouldn't run in WINE properly. I think if Valve wants to make SteamOS successful they need to look into creating a DirectX wrapper of sorts otherwise I really don't see much success drawing console gamers into buying a Steam Machine running SteamOS if they still need a strong Window's based gaming PC for streaming popular titles to their Steam Machine. I'd prefer to see SteamOS support the Window's games natively (via a wrapper or emulator) rather than have to stream them. Originally posted by:Hey Valve, change and use FreeBSD!!!
FreeBSD is the future. I really love FreeBSD, but thet's not what Valve is looking for. I think FreeBSD is great on a machine with compatible and optimized hardware, but Linux has much more compatibility. FreeBSD would be a good choice if StemOS was intended to be installed only on the Steam Machines (Or on a single machine, like Sony did for the PS4), but remember that SteamOS can also be installed over a PC. Poor choice imo, if they prioritized performance and targeted a somewhat narrower range of hardware, (eg. All AMD A-Series chips) and started with a more multimedia/desktop focused OS like BSD or AROS or Haiku, etc they could have tuned it to the hardware, trimmed out some of the bloat and abstractions and created an open(ish) platform that actually had performance competitive with consoles, instead they've piled the steam software distro on-top of an existing distro to make a half-baked OS that offers nothing at all remarkable, frankly it's less useful than the distro it's built on.
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